Anton Bauer calls on XCS
Late last week Anton Bauers USA Sales Manager representative Michael
Accardi called me and stated that he had read my testing results and
it raised a few concerns that A/B had on a couple of the final test
results. Specifically he was hearing from video cameramen that were
concerned about charge and run times of the Hytron 100s NiMH batteries.
We talked for quite a while about all types of battery chemistries,
and A/B products design/application for their batteries and , of course,
my testing results.
Anton Bauers concerns on the testing results:
That video cameramen reading the test results on our web page were
concerned that the charge times on the Hytron 100s were
taking too long for these batteries to be useful in a production application,
based on XCSs results. That video camera run times were not long
enough for the Hytron 100s rated capacity and voltage output of
these cells.
This of course would concern any battery manufacturer.
He also asked the the type of charger and serial number of the charger
I had. I told him that, indeed, I was using the 70 watt 2701 charger
with what should have been the a latest software and had used it on
all of the batteries- NICad and NiMH. He felt that there could possibly
be a software issue with my charger, and that this could effect the
charge time if the Hytron 100s only. He also stated that he felt
that the Hytron100 battery should charge in slightly under 2 hours time,
and that this possible software issue has no effect on the charge
times of the Hytron 50or any of the Nicad batteries. Which
until further testing, will still remain as posted in the testing results.
My My response to this was that never in my testing did I test any video
cameras, nor did I imply that I tested video cameras on our web page.
Only video assisted cameras XC77, XC75, XC999 and ARRI 435 color color
video assisted on motion picture cameras.
We both agree that these test results that I have done on film cameras
cannot be interpolated to reflect video camera power usage and
run times.
We also both agreed that given a D cell size in the Hytron 100 , that
this battery should have the capability of better performance under
lower capacitance draws as seen in the video industry, but not like
we see in 35mm motion picture cameras.
I want to make it perfectly clear to all video cameramen, that run and
charge times of the batteries I have tested are as stated in my test
results and that at no time did I test any type of production video
cameras. That theses results should not be compared to video camera
current draws.
Anton Bauer rep. Michael Accardi and I agreed that they would send me
another 2701 charger and three different Hytron 100s for testing
on motion picture cameras and that I would post the new results on our
web page.
Michael also stated a few other items of interest. He felt that if one
wanted to us the NiMH battery chemistry for the motion picture industry,
that the Hytron 100 was the one to use and that I should have done a
side by side comparison of the Hytron 100 vs. the 45 watt NiCad trim
pac. This, he felt, would be a better comparison. (In my testing results
the 100 watt Hytron did not out perform a single 45 watt Nicad on high
capacitance draws, even though it has well over twice the stated effective
capacitance,. but I will retest the Hytron 100s under higher power
draws and post the results when I receive the charger and cells from
A/B.) I told him that the size and weight of a Hytron 100 make it a
poor choice for Steadicam usage when multiple batteries are needed.
He then asked for some typical current draws that we see in our film
industry. I stated to him that they range from 3-5 amps at 12/24 volt
steady state and that they can range from 3-17 amp 12/24 volt on start
up for up to seven seconds ( However this can go longer on an Arri 435)
When he heard this he stated that the Hytron 100 would never hold up
to those loading conditions for these lengths of time and that with
these types of higher current draws, Nicad batteries are the best possible
choice.
I stated to him that I was hearing of poor battery performance from
camera operators who are using the NiMH 50s. He stated emphatically
that the Hytron 50 cell was designed for the power tool industry and
that it should not be used for these kind of current draws even if you
are using multiple batteries. Michael stated that this type of information
was clearly stated in their Battery Handbook and on their web page.
I asked them to please make this information a little clearer on their
web page because, s we all know, if we went strictly by what a battery
states as voltage, wattage and weight- we would all be using lithium
ion cells.
Michael Accardi asked me to post a statement telling any operator
that is having any issue with the Hytron 50s to please give Anton
Bauer a call at (800) 541-1667. They wish only to satisfy the end user.
We then spoke about the New Proformer 30 watt NicCad, and I
stated that I have not done any serious testing on this battery, but
have been using it in the field for about 6 months. I stated that I
was amazed on how well it performed and that we did run a small comparison
at ShoeBiz this year between a Hytron 50 and Proformer 30. Needless
to say, only once out of approximately 20 test comparisons did the Hytron
50 out-perform the a Proformer 30. Further testing would have to be
done to make any broad range comparisons between a Proformer 30 and
a Hytron 50. I would say maybe 50 to 60 people were able to see this
demonstration. Michael Accardi said that it did not surprise him at
all.
Anton Bauers only issue with my posted test results are as stated
above. They has no issue with cold battery performance, or any other
battery run times. Michael and I both agree we wish to encourage everyone
to read the Video Battery Handbook by Anton Bauer to better understand
cell technology, chemistry, performance, cell life and climate effects
on batteries and chargers.
More news about a different group of callers soon...
Greg Bubb, XCS
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